How would you describe
your job to someone standing behind you in the
grocery checkout line?
My title at HR.com is Knowledge Manager. I'm part
of the group known as Hunters and Gatherers: one
of my main responsibilities is hunting and gathering
information.
An underlying attitude at HR.com is to have fun.
We're clear about what we're trying to achieve,
so there are few rules. You do what you think
is right for the company. People work from home,
or have flexible hours. Some companies have policies
laying out the rules for these kinds of work options;
we don't rely much on policies, if people are
getting the job done why do you need a policy?
We're a site interested in good management processes
so it's very interesting to live it ourselves.
What is your educational
background?
I have a Hons B.Sc. in biochemistry and chemistry
from McMaster University and an MBA from the University
of Western Ontario.
What path did you take
to get where you are now?
It's not at all linear. When I finished my undergraduate
program, I looked around at chemistry grad programs
in Canada, but didn't see anything that was really
exciting. A friend came back from Harvard Business
School and said that's the place for you. The
University of Western Ontario is the closest thing
we have to Harvard Business School in Canada so
I went there.
How did you get your current
job?
My career has always been about looking for something
interesting to do. After b-school I started in
Finance with Gulf Oil. When PCs came out IT became
a very interesting area so I moved to the UK and
into IT. Later a friend working for a consultancy
became interested in using technology to support
decision making, and he brought me into consulting
and to HR. This eventually took me to Malaysia,
back to Canada and then back to Malaysia a second
time.
In 1999 I returned to Toronto from Kuala Lumpur
and was looking for something interesting to do.
At that time, Debbie McGrath was looking to start
a company and a mutual friend introduced us. I've
become convinced that networking is the key to
finding good jobs.
What do you consider to
be your key career decisions?
I don't really see my career as characterized
by specific important decisions. There's always
an opportunity to move into a different field
or onto a different continent. It's not that your
decisions set in stone the direction you're going
to take.
I will say I've had a strategy to look for things
that I think would be intellectually and emotionally
rewarding. I was interested in working overseas
so I looked for ways to make that possible. Your
career is one big adventure so I approached it
that way.
What is your ultimate
career goal?
I don't have one and don't know if I'd recommend
that people live their lives that way. You have
to feel rewarded with what your doing all through
your career. My ultimate goal is to do things
that are interesting and valuable.
What kinds of people do
well in your company/organization?
There is a definite personality type. You have
to deal with high levels of ambiguity, that things
will change overnight-your role or the company
direction or the project you've been working on-and
you have to be able to work with little managerial
direction. You just keep moving forward.
This is a very adventurous company. We spend
very little time on analysis or second guessing
mistakes. It's about going out and discovering
what works.
What backgrounds does
HR.com look for?
On the content side, it's helpful but not essential
to have human resource experience. Other staff
has sales and marketing experience, or technical
expertise, for example.
What is your typical day
like?
It's hard to say what's typical. I spend a lot
of time acquiring content, looking over articles,
giving people feedback; I spend a reasonable amount
of time writing my own articles.
What do you like about
your job? What don't you like?
One of the things I like best is that I get to
interview great people. I interview people who
have some special insight into people and organizations.
That means I get to talk to people like N.
Katherine Hayles (UCLA), Jeffrey
Pfeffer (Stanford), and Henry
Mintzberg (McGill University).
The only thing I don't like is that we could
do so much more if we had more resources at hand.
But the economics aren't there. We're a profitable
dot. com and we are that way because we are careful
about how we spend our money.
What have been your most
interesting projects or opportunities?
The most interesting project was in the early
days when from a blank sheet of paper we designed
the site, starting from the fundamental intellectual
principles, to what the screens would look like,
and how people would interact with us.
If you had it all to do
over again, what would you do differently about
your career?
I would very seriously consider being a research
chemist, which I suppose is quite different from
what I ended up doing. I might go to the U.S.
or UK after my undergraduate studies and do a
doctorate there.
Who are your role models?
One role model is Northrop
Frye, who was an English professor at the
University of Toronto and one of the smartest
people anywhere. I've always admired his intellectual
depth.
Henry Mintzberg is another; he sees things much
more deeply and clearly than the vast majority
of management academics.
What do you do when you're
not at work?
I play with Barbies and "Tomb Raider"
with my 4-year old daughter.
What is the most rewarding
thing about what you do?
I hope we're having an impact on managerial practice,
an impact that makes people more humane and more
effective. There are a lot of bad ideas out there;
as well as presenting the good ideas we're combating
the bad and negative ones.
What advice do you have
for others who want a job like yours?
First, you have to decide that it's really what
you want. Changing functional areas and moving
across oceans is not the way to maximize your
income nor is it the most stable way to live.
But the key to pursuing a career like mine is
to invest a lot of time in learning and to learn
about as wide a variety of things as possible.
The appreciation of technical depth you get in
chemistry is a wonderful foundation for anyone
who embarks on lifelong learning. I've never faced
anything in life as tough as second year thermodynamics.
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